Church funds equal Indian Navy’s annual budget

Not many people know it, but the church is the second largest land owner in India after Railways. Most of this is temple land confiscated by the British and handed over to various churches.

Church funds equal Indian Navy’s annual budget

Panaji: Christians want state laws to govern assets of churches

Christians are a mere 2.5 per cent of the country’s population. But, the Church in India suffers from a case of plenty, says Remy Denis, All India Catholic Union President.

Church authorities control funds equivalent to the Indian Navy’s annual budget. The Church is also the second largest employer after the government, he said.

Eduardo Faleiro, a former Union minister and Goa NRI Commissioner, is among the growing number of Catholics like Prof Denis, who support a law to govern Church properties and a far greater degree of transparency in the way the Church manages its earthly assets.

“The Church is not a symbol of power but service, and democratic laws must apply to it equally. All religions must be kept on the same footing,” Faleiro said at a conference called to debate the matter of bringing Church properties under state laws.

The laws that govern Church properties in Goa were enacted during the Portuguese regime. The same laws have long since been repealed in Portugal, Faleiro said.

Almost all other religions in India have laws enacted to administer their properties, K T Thomas, former Supreme Court judge, said. Hindu temples are governed by laws specifically enacted for each trust and their accounts are subject to judicial review. The Sikhs, one of the smallest religious groups in the country, have the Sikh Gurudwara Act. Muslim trust properties comes under the Wakf Act.

“I feel the opposition from the Christians is on account of a fear that a provision for judicial scrutiny is likely to expose the expenses and magnitude of wealth of the denomination,” Thomas said. The head of the Believers Church had recently acquired a huge plantation in Kerala for Rs 123 crore. This was apart from the vast assets already held by the denomination, he said. The Church in Kerala also runs its own media network.

Thomas said there was a misplaced apprehension that the Parliament, through legislation, would grab the properties of the churches. No such law could be passed by Parliament or State legislatures, he said. All religious denominations have the right to own and acquire properties, establish and maintain religious institutions. “But, in matters of administration of your properties you have to abide by the law,” he said.

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  1. duartmaclean

    Followers of the Sanatana Dharma need to take India back. Time to ‘wake up’.

    • karan

      Christianity with such satanic tools like Liberation Theology is dangerous for mankind.

      • karan

        “Every man today who is open to experience knows that God is absent, but only the Christian knows that God is dead, that the death of God is a final and irrevocable event, and that God’s death has actualized in our history a new and liberated humanity”.
        THIS IDEOLOGY IS CLOSEST TO COMMUNISM.
        THIS IDEOLOGY GENERATES THE IDEA OF LIBERATION THEOLOGY.
        THIS IDEOLOGY IS BASE OF NAXALITE MOVEMENT OF INDIA.

    • John

      Dalit theology is a branch of Christian theology that emerged among the Dalit caste in India in the 1980s. It shares a number of themes with liberation theology, which arose two decades earlier, including a self-identity as a people undergoing Exodus.Dalit theology sees hope in the “Nazareth Manifesto” of Luke 4, where Jesus speaks of preaching “good news to the poor … freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind” and of releasing “the oppressed.”

    • nitha

      The filthy, ugly little sister of Marxism, and therefore Satanism, is Liberation Theology
      Churches & Organizations Promoting Liberation Theology
      http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/churclib.htm

      • You haven’t read much, surely not Marxism, or, anything on theology.
        Visit libraries more and blogsites less.

      • John

        The Cross and the Communist
        Liberation Theology originated in the poverty and slums of Latin America, where it deeply influenced Christian groups in the 1970s and 1980s, making them shun the elitist image of the Church and serve the poorest of the poor as Christ did. Liberation Theology transformed the way many Catholics viewed charity and social work. It contained elements of Marxist analysis and came out in support of the poor, spurring them to action to change their lot.
        In India, Liberation Theology failed to blossom into a strong movement due to various factors. The minority status of the Catholic groups meant that they were not able to communicate their ideas to other groups. They also came under attack from right-wing sections which found them to too radical while the mainstream Left was suspicious of them. In fact, some of the liberation activists were even dubbed “agents of the West” by the more hardline Leftists.
        http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/stoi/The-Cross-and-the-Communist/articleshow/2330020.cms

        • Padmanabhan

          @John
          This cross and communism affiliation is dangerous.
          A Jesuit, Liberation Theology, The Maoists, The Naxalite, The Communists, The Proletariat In India
          Maoist communism may be as dead as Mao Zedong himself in China, but in India it is alive and in brutal good health.
          Writing in a Catholic newspaper last week, Jesuit priest Ambrose Pinto said that at the heart of the problem is a battle between two models of development. Prime Minister Singh and mainstream national and state administrations are pursuing a “neo-liberal” model which encourages foreign investment and welcomes multi-national corporations. This approach, says Pinto, has seen tens of thousands of local and tribal people displaced to make way for such things as steel mills, power plants, mine developments and special economic zones. The global recession has caused havoc with this approach, spurred unemployment, misery and impoverishment, and provided recruits for the Maoists, he said.
          Pinto says the Maoists and Naxalites have a legitimate claim to a share of the profits from the resources of their land.
          http://goodjesuitbadjesuit.blogspot.in/2009/09/jesuit-liberation-theology-maoists.html
          For some of Bombay’s young Catholics, it was the doctrine of Liberation Theology, which preached the need for social change.

          That doctrine not only bore a striking resemblance to a Communist charter but also sat uneasily next to the Left’s aversion to religion.

          It’s this odd mix of Liberation Theology and Marxism, which, for instance, drew someone like Vernon Fernandes into the more radical path of Naxalism.

          ”Liberation Theology is a mix of Christian option for poor and Marxist philosophy. It would fit into Vernon’s philosophy, like making option for poor,” said Kenneth Gonsalves, Brother of Vernon.
          http://naxalresistance.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/tracking-the-history-of-naxal-movement/
          NGO-Naxal-Christian nexus behind Murder of Swami Lakshmananda
          http://www.haindavakeralam.com/hkpage.aspx?PageID=7020&SKIN=B

          • S

            The christian cult is involved and is the prime culprit.

            • Padmanabhan

              @S
              The Christian mission equates the expansion of Christianity in different parts of the world with the march of the Holy Spirit. The history of Christianity helps us in understanding what the Holy Spirit really stands for-the march of European military machines, the forcible occupation of other people’s motherlands, the massacre of heathens or their conversion at the point of the sword, the exercise of political pressures by imperialist establishments, the use of money and manpower and the mass media on a large scale, and the perfection of a scholarship which excels in suppressio veri suggestio falsi (suppressing truth and spreading falsehood). Christianity was a state enterprise for all European countries, some of which became imperialist powers from the sixteenth century onwards. The record of Christianity over the last nearly two thousand years provides no evidence that it ever prevailed over paganism by the moral or ethical or spiritual superiority of its teachings.

            • som

              This new trend of Christianity ( Dominion Theology & Liberation Theology ) has no word for democracy; secularism and Christianity are mutually exclusive; Christianity can set up only a theocratic state and Christianity has institutionalised slavery .

              • karan

                @som
                India can no longer afford the luxury of being a soft state, continuing to avoid hard decisions and actions. A soft state at this critical juncture in history may also face a meltdown .

              • hari

                Christianity was trounced whenever it entered into a debate with Hinduism. Christianity has survived in India not on account of any strength or merit in its arguments but because its machine continues to grind even when it loses the debate. Hindus have still to understand that game and defeat it on its own grounds

    • Christian imperialism, if it ever existed has long gone. But you are still suffering from the victim syndrome. So even when you are not physically dominated by your perceived enemy, it still dominate your mental faculties. See a doctor and get cured.

      • karan

        Dominion Theology is a category used by journalists, scholars, and religious activists to classify theological systems with the common belief that society should be governed exclusively by the law of God, as codified in the Bible. The two main movements most typically labeled as Dominion Theology are Christian Reconstructionism and Kingdom Now Theology. Though these two movements differ greatly in their general theological orientation (the first is strongly Reformed and Neo-Calvinistic, the second is Charismatic), they share a postmillennial vision in which the Kingdom of God will be established on Earth through political and (in some cases) military means.

        Dominion Theology is seen by some as a subset of Dominionism, a theological form of political ideology, that some social scientists and journalists claim has broadly influenced the Christian Right in the United States, Canada, and Europe, within Protestant Christian evangelicalism and fundamentalism.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

        • ravi

          @karan
          According to Gospel For Asia-a recent issue of the Texas-based magazine:
          “The Indian sub-continent with one billion people, is a living example of what happens when Satan rules the entire culture… India is one vast purgatory in which millions of people …. are literally living a cosmic lie! Could Satan have devised a more perfect system for causing misery?”

          But such attitudes are nothing new, of course. Christians have waged such ‘spiritual warfare’ against their enemies for centuries, and with the same kind of language.
          There are two important points here. First, we must not assume that the ‘developed’ West is free from wilful ignorance. Indeed, wilful ignorance is often a very useful weapon. We need enemies, and, as religious people, we need demons. The utility of Islamophobia is a case in point.Besides, there’s a useful role for such bigotry within the system: as a foil for the liberal powerful to prove their liberal credentials.
          And ‘spiritual warfare’, for the evangelical Christian movement, is not just a matter of prayers and metaphor: it is also, very decisively, a matter of ‘virtuous’ troops, tanks, and drones.

      • ravi

        The Bush Doctrine of spreading freedom and human rights has been called today’s version of Manifest Destiny. It presupposes that America must impose its own social and political principles on others, in the others’ best interests.

        Any perceived threat to the status quo of privileges and entitlements that Westerners take for granted is sufficient provocation to trigger the revival of Christian fundamentalism. Post-9/11 is seeing the rise of this fundamentalism from its latent state.

      • John

        The name “Dominion Theology” is derived from Genesis 1:28, where God grants humanity “dominion” over the Earth.

        And God blessed [ Adam and Eve ], and God said unto them, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
        Dominion theology refers to a line of theological interpretation and thought with regard to the role of the church in contemporary society. Dominion theology is also known as Christian reconstructionism and theonomy. Dominion theology states that biblical Christianity will rule all areas of society, personal and corporate. Christian reconstructionism reasons that society will be reconstructed by the Law of God as preached in the gospel and the Great Commission. Theonomy is a post-millennial view believing that all of the moral laws contained in the Old Testament are yet binding today. Although these might sound somewhat disparate, they have all been closely linked together to the point that people often use the terms interchangeably.

        Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/dominion-theology.html#ixzz2VgCtgeoY

    • singh

      False information is more dangerous than acknowledgment of one’s ignorance. Most Hindu leaders naively equate Christianity with Catholicism, US Christianity with European Christianity, and see all Christian denominations as being the ‘same’. They lack any past about Christian Liberation Theology, Inculturation strategies, constructive theologies, Christian Zionism, and so forth. When they gleefully quote that church attendance is down in the US, they fail to consider that home based Christian prayer groups have replaced church going in many communities across America, and such groups now represent a major component of fundamentalist Christianity.

  2. I think it is a problem of the Indian Navy rather than of the Churches.
    Govt. should invest more money in its Navy. Simple.

    • singh

      @Cynical
      Invest more money….for what???
      Dominion Theology, also called “Kingdom Now Theology,” is a false teaching stating that man is commissioned to bring the entire world under the dominion of Christianity, by force if necessary, and then, hand over the Christianized world to Jesus when he comes.
      http://dominion-theology.blogspot.in/
      Dominion theology refers to a line of theological interpretation and thought with regard to the role of the church in contemporary society. Dominion theology is also known as Christian reconstructionism and theonomy. Dominion theology states that biblical Christianity will rule all areas of society, personal and corporate. Christian reconstructionism reasons that society will be reconstructed by the Law of God as preached in the gospel and the Great Commission. Theonomy is a post-millennial view believing that all of the moral laws contained in the Old Testament are yet binding today. Although these might sound somewhat disparate, they have all been closely linked together to the point that people often use the terms interchangeably.

      Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/dominion-theology.html#ixzz2VYTvJOxS
      A militant image and message from a popular prophetic ministry. It looks very much like Lord of the Rings, the Tolkien trilogy.
      Dominion theology is a Utopian ideal.
      It is a belief that this world can, and must, be conquered for Christ by militant action undertaken by the Christian Church. To get a good sense of what is happening in the established Church today see the article Dominionism and the rise of Christian Imperialism by Sarah Leslie.
      http://endtimepilgrim.org/dom.htm
      I don’t move in circles where dominion theology is at work, but many today are deeply concerned about the rise of dominion theology – or Christian Reconstructionism – and one such person is Paul C. McGlasson and he has written No! A Theological Response to Christian Reconstructionism to describe it and respond to it – with finesse, charity and clarity.

      Are you seeing dominion theology? Where? Are you concerned? What do you think is the best response to dominion theology? But this leads to this: What is the difference between dominion theology and Jesus’ vision of a theocratic kingdom (Kingdom of “God”)?
      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2012/07/26/dominion-theology/
      Dominion theology (the belief-system behind the reconstructionist movement) teaches that through the coming of Christ the believer has dominion over every area of life. We are now in the Kingdom of God (note the similar view of the Kingdom that the Vineyard movement takes, as well as the plethora of Christian songs being written implying that we are in the Kingdom at the present time) and as a result we should be reigning with Christ over the earth.
      http://apprising.org/2011/01/31/dominion-theology/

  3. singh

    @Cynical
    So, the Liberation Theology is for Christian -Left( if jesus were on earth,he would be a Marxist revolutionary)
    and Dominion theology for Christian -Right (man is commissioned to bring the entire world under the dominion of Christianity, by force if necessary, and then, hand over the Christianized world to Jesus when he comes).
    WOW….WHAT A ARRANGEMENT !!!…..SATANIC…… RIGHT???.

    • ravi

      The Right -wing Christianity and Left- wing Christianity have common objective i.e.Imperialism.

    • nitha

      @singh
      Refuting the Bad Theology Espoused by Spiritual Warfare Teachersby Bob DeWaay
      Many popular teachers question God’s sovereign rule over His own creation. Their unbiblical scenario goes like this: God made Adam the ruler of the world; Adam committed “treason” and turned the rightful dominion of the earth over to Satan; and Christ’s atonement was to regain this lost dominion. According to this theology, however, Christ turned the rulership of the world over to the church when He ascended into heaven. The church consequently lost it back to Satan by ignorance, unbelief, and dis-unity. Now in these last days supposed prophets and apostles are being raised up to take control over the Satanic forces in the heavenlies and Christianize the world. This happens as the church takes cities through binding and casting down the spiritual forces of darkness that rule over them. Many dominion spiritual warfare teachers embrace this scheme, though differing on some details.
      http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue48.htm
      Kingdom-Dominion heresy:
      Jesus’ disciples should concentrate on Jesus Christ and grow and root to Him. Jesus centered faith exposes also deceitful deeds of darkness. For this reason, I bring up Kingdom-Dominion (Dominion theology) heresy. One of the main heresies of this theology is that they teach the whole world must come to believe in Jesus and after that Jesus can come back. Now it is very good to examine that what this Kingdom-Dominion heresy teaches. Big apostasy will come in the last days by charismas (spiritual gifts), in which are used in a wrong way and in by the power of the enemy (evil spirits. Fortunately there is also right kind of gifts of God and we as Jesus’ disciples must learn to use and discern the real charismas (gifts) of God for deception.
      http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/kingdomdominion.html
      Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now/Reconstructionism
      Blessing or Curse?*
      Dominion theology (the belief-system behind the Reconstructionist movement) teaches that through the coming of Christ the believer has dominion over every area of life.
      http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cor/dominion.htm
      The Woman On The Beast In End Time Prophecy Has Dominion Theology
      Much of Christianity is now traveling on very different bandwagons of dominionism but all paths lead to some form of a Christian or religious world under a government theocracy or theonomy (under the law of God), before the physical glorious return of Jesus Christ. How they get there within their own various creeds and how much control Christians will actually establish on the earth before the return of Jesus are the main differences.
      http://www.thepropheticyears.com/comments/The%20woman%20on%20the%20beast%20in%20end%20time%20prophecy%20has%20dominion%20theology.htm

      Satan’s Deceptive Theology in the Church – Dominionism and the NAR
      http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/satans-deceptive-theology-in-the-church-dominionism-and-the-nar/

      THE MYTH OF BINDING SATAN AND TAKING WORLD DOMINION
      http://worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=8364

      An Examination of Kingdom Theology – Part 1/3
      The basic premise of Kingdom Theology is that man lost dominion over the earth when Adam and Eve succumbed to Satan’s temptation in the Garden of Eden. God “lost control” of the earth to Satan at that time, and has since been looking for a “covenant people” who will be His “extension,” or “expression,” in the earth and take dominion back from Satan. This is to be accomplished through certain “overcomers” who, by yielding themselves to the authority of God’s apostles and prophets for the Kingdom Age, will take control of the kingdoms of this world. These kingdoms are defined as all social institutions, such as the “kingdom” of education, the “kingdom” of science, the “kingdom” of the arts, and so on.
      http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l04.html

    • ravi

      MAIN FEATURES OF KINGDOM DOMINION DOCTRINE OR DOMINION THEOLOGY
      (1)When we examine very accurately Kingdom-Dominion doctrine, so we notice that it is preparing the coming of antichrist to the earth. Kingdom-Dominion theology cancelled all important Bible teachings from the last days; it cancels rapture and teaches about saving of the whole world. This suit for an antichrist, because for a short time antichrist will take over the whole world and all people in the earth believe to him, that is the Messiah and benefactor. Jesus’ faithful disciples don’t believe to an antichrist, but everybody else will believe. Kingdom-Dominion teachers also reject Biblical teaching about apostasy.
      (2)Christ will not (and cannot) return to earth until the church has accomplished this task, so say the dominionists.
      (3)Satan is simply the highest-ranking angel that God created. Satan will retain his position until God removes that authority from him. This is why scripture declares that Satan is now the prince of the power of the air and the god of this world. Satan administrates over the affairs of sinful man on the earth for God’s own purpose. Nevertheless, God always is in total control of all of His creation including the earth and Satan reports directly to Him.
      (4)It embraces “Covenant Theology” and hates “Dispensational Theology” where, by the way, many of their disciples actually first learned the salvation message. Dominionists say they are spiritually enlightened and some even claim to be prophets of God but they are prophetically blind. They often teach Christian prosperity on earth but these doctrines are spiritually bankrupt.
      (5)This is what this is all about: Dominionism. This is the core belief of this whole group and it is important to understand just what it is because EVERY church today seems to have elements of this and certain groups and churches are centering their entire belief of the Church around it.
      (6)This means that our divine mandate is to do whatever is necessary, by the power of the Holy Spirit.
      (7)All zealously propagate their “new revelations” which allegedly are to prepare the Church for “the next move of God,” bringing us closer to the Kingdom Age (the rule of God on earth).

    • karan

      Why Dominion Theology is Satanic:
      (1)Anarchism -It is preparing the coming of anarchism to the earth ,TOTAL
      COLLAPSE OF DEMOCRATIC STRUCTURE ,HUMAN RIGHT INSTITUTIONS &LAW AND ORDER ON EARTH,
      (2)Spiritually bankrupt, as every follower declaring himself Spiritual Enlightened SIMPLY A BIG JOKE,BETTER KNOWN AS DIVINE MADNESS.
      (3) Dominion ism -totally intolerant towards other believes TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF OTHER FAITHS , RELIGIONS OR BELIEVE SYSTEM ON EARTH.

    • som

      So,the practitioner of Liberation Theology and Dominion Theology are Anarchist,Spiritually bankrupt and Intolerant demons.

      • S

        To put it simply – they are brainwashed homo sapiens who are pathologically homicidal, and should be treated as the rabid animals that they are.

        • som

          @S
          Shorn of its mask of love and compassion, the true color of Christianity is evident in all its nakedness in the North East. Fortunately, the tribals are realizing that their Christianization has led to loss of identity and self-alienation. They are slowly reviving their ancient traditions and customs. Our tribal brethren need our active support to overthrow the yoke of Christianity. Are we going to respond to their call?
          http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1141970933&type=articles

        • som

          The Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram is an organisation working for the socio-economic upliftment and development of India’s indigenous tribes in the remote tribal areas of India. The Ashram has been undertaking a series of programs in remote tribal villages. It has branches all over the country. In its 2002 annual convention, held at Varanasi, its national president informed the press that the organization has launched several welfare schemes for the development of the tribes at 8955 places in 312 districts of the country under the supervision of 1203 full-time workers. These schemes aim at development in Agriculture, health, child education, sports, and culture. Most such districts have primary schools and in many places residential schools, hostels, libraries and health centers. Among the several annual events, the important ones include medical camps, traditional sports, and celebration of tribal festivals

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