So Gita is an extremist text, while Bible and Koran preach love!

Here is an example of the bigoted cuckooland in which monotheists live. A big Christian group is behind this move:

Bhagavad Gita faces ban in Russia

Bhagavad Gita, one of the holiest Hindu scriptures, is facing a legal ban and the prospect of being branded as “an extremist” literature across Russia.  A  court in Siberia’s Tomsk city is set to deliver its final verdict on Monday in a case filed by state prosecutors.

The case, which has been going on in Tomsk court since June, seeks ban on a Russian translation of “Bhagavad Gita As It Is” written by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON).

It also wants the Hindu religious text banned in Russia and declared as a literature spreading “social discord”, its distribution on Russian soil rendered illegal.

In view of the case, Indians settled in Moscow, numbering about 15,000, and followers of the ISKCON religious movement here have appealed to Manmohan Singh and his government to intervene diplomatically to resolve the issue in favour of the scripture, an important part of Indian epic Mahabharata written by sage Ved Vyas.

The ISKCON followers in Russia have also written a letter to the  Prime Minister’s Office in New Delhi, calling for immediate intervention, lest the religious freedom of Hindus living here be compromised.

“The case is coming up for a final verdict on Monday in Tomsk court. We want all efforts from the Indian government to protect the religious rights of Hindus in Russia,” Sadhu Priya Das of ISKCON and a devotee of a 40-year-old Krishna temple in central Moscow, told IANS.

The court, which took up the case filed by the state prosecutors, had referred the book to the Tomsk State University for “an expert” examination Oct 25.

But Hindu groups in Russia, particularly followers of ISKCON, say the university was not qualified as it lacked Indologists who study the history and cultures, languages, and literature of the Indian subcontinent.

The Hindus pleaded with the court that the case was inspired by religious bias and intolerance from a “majority religious group in Russia”, and have sought that their rights to practice their religious beliefs be upheld.

The prosecutor’s case also seeks to ban the preachings of Prabhupada and ISKCON’s religious beliefs, claiming these were “extremist” in nature and preached “hatred” of other religious beliefs.

“They have not just tried to get the Bhagavad Gita banned, but also brand our religious beliefs and preachings as extremist,” Das said.

The ISKCON devotees have taken up the matter with the Indian embassy in Moscow too for an early diplomatic intervention before things get worse and the court passes an adverse verdict banning the Bhagavad Gita and Krishna consciousness teachings.

In the Nov 1 letter addressed to Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister Pulok Chatterji, ISKCON’s New Delhi branch Governing Body Commissioner Gopal Krishna Goswami, said the prosecutor’s affidavit claims Lord Krishna “is evil and not conforming to Christian religious view”.

Goswami also urged Manmohan Singh to accord priority to the matter during his Moscow stay and take it up with the Russian authorities.

Indian diplomatic corps officials at the embassy here, who were unwilling to be named, told IANS that they have been following up the case since the time it was brought to their notice earlier this year.

They had also taken up the matter at the appropriate levels in the Russian government to get the case either withdrawn or get the defence to fight the case to obtain a favourable verdict.

Officials at the Indian Prime Minister’s Office, who were part of the Indian delegation accompanying Manmohan Singh, confirmed to IANS the case and the letter they received from ISKCON in this regard.

“This matter is receiving the highest attention and the Indian embassy officials in Moscow have been instructed to follow up the case with the Russian authorities,” they said.

So according to these Christian bigots, Gita should be banned because Lord Krishna “is evil and not conforming to Christian religious view.” Urr.. by that logic, Bible should be banned in India because it doesn’t confirm to the Hindu religious view. These Christians are cowards too — notice how they steer clear of mentioning the Koran anywhere, and only choose soft targets. The day Hindus pick up the stick, they will start getting respect from the monothiests.



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14 responses to “So Gita is an extremist text, while Bible and Koran preach love!

  1. Ramjam

    What else can you expect from a communist radicals like russians who have no religion or culture ? These are the tricks of evnagelists who neither understand their faith and where was christianity before christ ?

  2. S

    indian secular morons have started justifying too.

  3. “notice how they steer clear of mentioning the Koran anywhere, and only choose soft targets. The day Hindus pick up the stick, they will start getting respect from the monothiests.”

    I quite agree…


    Our Indian Government is too secular a government that it does not find it proper to intervene on behalf of Hindus as that would harm her secular image abroad.
    India is probably one of the very few countries that do not respect the culture and traditions of its majority population. Now you know what secularism is in practice.

  5. MRaghavan

    The question that I ask is does ISKCON – a completely Western adaptation of a Hindu sect – truly represent the tradition of the Vedas such that it can speak on behalf of Hinduism in Russia?

  6. S

    ” ISKCON – a completely Western adaptation of a Hindu sect”

    SImply wrong.
    Before asking such silly questions, pls show why you ‘feel’ that?

    • Vineet

      Dear S,

      If you see ISKCON too follows the western concept on only one god and one book. Shrimad Bhagwad Gita is a very sacred book for Hindus and so is Shri Krishna revered by all either as bal gopal, or young krishna or the Arjun’s guide etc but nowhere he is considered as The Only One which is basically the concept of all Non Santan Dharmis be it Muslims, Christians, Buddhists etc.

      There lies the problem. ISKCON doesnt understand Sanatan Dharm concept one bit. Thats why if someone says it is a western adaptation of Hindu sect – the person is not much off the mark

  7. Vineet

    Though I appreciate ISKCON and their passion in bhakti of Shri Krishna. What usually upsets me is the disdain they have for other Sanatan Dharma gods. Their calendar of Ekadashi etc is also different from our calendar.

    ISKCON should be part of Sanatan Dharma and not separate entity. If they believe in Bhagwaan Krishna then they should show same respect towards Bhagwaan Ram, Bhagwaan Shiv, Durga Maata and other major gods of Sanatan Dharma

  8. JGN

    It seems that the problems are due to the interpretation of BhagwadGita by ISKCON, which is:

    Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 2.31
    “In the battlefield, a king or kṣatriya, while fighting another king envious of him, is eligible for achieving heavenly planets after death, as the brāhmaṇas also attain the heavenly planets by sacrificing animals in the sacrificial fire.” Therefore, killing on the battlefield on religious principles and killing animals in the sacrificial fire are not at all considered to be acts of violence, because everyone is benefited by the religious principles involved. The animal sacrificed gets a human life immediately without undergoing the gradual evolutionary process from one form to another, and the kṣatriyas killed on the battlefield also attain the heavenly planets as do the brāhmaṇas who attain them by offering sacrifice.

    Now compare the other versions:

    1) Plain translation: Considering also your duty as a warrior, you should not waver. Because there is nothing more auspicious for a warrior than a righteous war. (2.31)

    2) Sridhara Swami’s Commentary on 2.31

    Arjuna is being instructed that he should not hesitate in carrying out his duty as a warrior. Just because there is no destruction for the eternal soul. He should without hesitation slay these miscreants who have perpetrated heinous offences. Arjuna stated in chapter one, verse thirty- one that he saw no benefit in slaying kinsman. That argument is now nullified because for a ksatriya there is no better fight than for the sake of righteousness which is in conformity with the Vedic scriptures.

    3) Kesava Kasmiri’s Commentary on 2.31

    Having established the fact that it is not intelligent to lament about the soul of any living entity, Lord Krishna subsequently responds to Arjunas supplication of what is in his highest good with the word svadharmam or principles of righteousness. Not only considering the nature of the soul but one’s duty is indicated here as well. Lord Krishna is emphasising this to Arjuna so that he will follow his duty as a ksatriya and act like a warrior. For to act contrary and hesitate or waver is not in accordance with ksatriya code according to Vedic scriptures and such a deviation by Arjuna would be considered an act of unrighteousness. What then is duty? Righteousness is duty which is not separate from those who are righteous. For a ksatriya there is nothing more welcome then the oppurtunity to fight a battle to protect righteousness. As it is stated in Yagnavalkya that the steps taken in warfare are as sacrifices themselves for those who do not turn their backs from battle even though wounded. It is to be understood that Arjunas previous lamentations such as feeling sympathy for his relatives in battle arrayed against him, his body shaking and his hair standing on end, his mind reeling and his loss of equilibrium are all unfavorable to him in executing his duty and thus are not appropriate in this situation.

    4) Ramanuja’s Commentary on 2.31

    The virtuous war the Supreme Lord Krishna is instructing Arjuna about would be recorded in the Mahabharata as the Battle of Kuruksetra. Because it involves such great sacrifices of life it should be regarded as within the sphere of a ksatriya’s legitimate duties the same as a Agnisomiyam which is the performance of sacrifice to Agni and Soma. Understanding that it is to his merit as a ksatriya to fight this battle Arjuna can have no cause for regret. According to the ksatriya code of ethics no infringement has been enacted by Arjuna or his brothers the Pandava’s and so dharma or righteousness is with them. There is no action more meritorious for a ksatriya then to fight for righteousness. The qualities to be found in a ksatriya are heroism, exuberance, determination, resourcefulness, bravery in battle, generosity and leadership. That those slain in battle obtain illustrious heavenly bodies and win other rewards in heavenly spheres has already been mentioned

    There is no mention of RELIGION in any ancient Indian literatures including Bhagwad Gita as such a term did not even exist at that time. From where did ISKCON get the idea of fighting for the Religion?? How can any one blame the Russians for thinking that Gita is an extremist text after reading such nonsenses? They should rename their translation/interpretation as Bhagavad-gītā As It is NOT.

  9. JGN

    @ S, what makes you defend the dubious activities of ISKCON or make you beleive that all those White-lizards we see there are out to praise Lord Krishna? Some of them are defnitely spies of foreign countries. There may also be some Indian fifth columnists among them. IS-K-CON is another version of the Missionary beggars out to sell the culture and civilization of our country for a few Green bucks.

  10. JGN

    How different is the interpretation of Verse 2.31 provided by IS-K-CON from the hate-filled verses of The Bible and The Quran?

  11. JGN

    Hinduism or Sanathan Dharma is based on four principles: Dharma (Righteousness), Artha (Materialistic
    Desires), Kama (Sensual Desires) and Moksha (Liberation from the cycle of Life & Death). No Indian literature tells us that we have to kill another person for attaining Moksha!!!!!!!!!

  12. I used to be part of ISKCON at one point in my life. ISKCON is a Vaishnavite organisation, and that in itself explains its views.

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