Tamil Eelam: Church’s Brainchild?

 Is ‘Tamil Eelam’ a Christian agenda?        
By B R Haran 

The White Christian Church has the unique characteristic of gaining entry into non-White, non-Semitic civilizations, by slow infiltration of important establishments to influence them and create unrest by dividing the local populace along communal or linguistic lines, with the sole objective of Christianising those countries.

Several instances in history confirm this. The Church has been partially successful in India, as evidenced by the Christianisation of north-eastern states such as Meghalaya, Nagaland, Mizoram, etc., and a few pockets in other States. While interior states have been able to withstand the Christian onslaught, the southern coastal states of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh have been vulnerable to the evil designs of the Church. This was made possible only because of the help provided by self-serving political leaders in the guise of secularism. 

Influencing politics in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka

The Dravidian Movement of Tamil Nadu comprised only such leaders, who even went to the extent of requesting the British to continue their hegemony over Tamil Nadu. Since then, the unholy ‘Christian-Dravidian’ nexus has worked consistently for the cause of ‘Tamil Nation,’ extending it to the north-east of Sri Lanka as well.

Just as it divided the Tamil people through the bogus ‘Aryan (Brahmin) – Dravidian (Non-Brahmin) Theory,’ to alienate non-Brahmins from the ‘Hindu’ fold along linguistic lines (Aryan Sanskrit – Dravidian Tamil), the Church similarly divided the Sri Lankan people along linguistic (Sinhala-Tamil) lines. On the one hand, it backed the LTTE fully against the government, and on the other, it successfully infiltrated the Sri Lankan establishment and influenced the government through Sinhala Christian leadership. 

When Sri Lankan Prime Minister Solomon West Ridgeway Dias Bandaranaike introduced the “Sinhala only Act” in 1956, the Island’s first anti-Tamil riots took place. Prior to Solomon Bandaranaike, the Sri Lankan government was headed by leaders like Don Stephen Senanayake and John Kotelawala, and his successors were Sirimavo Bandaranaike, Dudley Senanayake, Junius Richard Jayewardene, Premadasa, Ranil Wickramasinghe, Chandrika Bandaranaike Kumaratunge (married a Christian), Percy Mahinda Rajapakse, who were all either Christians, or Buddhist converts, or married to Christian spouses. 

The first Sri Lankan Tamil leader who started the demand for separatism was a Christian – Samuel James Velupillai Chelvanayakam; he also called for a “Greater Dravida Nadu” on both sides of the Palk Straits.

It can be said that LTTE just followed his footsteps, backed by the Church and missionaries. Ever since ethnic riots took place in 1983, Anton Balasingham, a Roman Catholic, assumed the mantle of LTTE’s political leadership and was second only to Prabhakaran, also a Christian.

Ironically, the 85% Hindu majority of Sri Lankan Tamils came totally under the control of a Christian minority leadership, thanks to the Machiavellian machinations of the Church and missionaries. It is difficult to swallow this bitter truth, especially when recalling the glorious past of Sri Lankan Tamil Hindus under the leadership of great Shaivite scholars like Arumuga Navalar, great men like Ponnambalam Ramanathan and Ponnambalam Arunachalam, and intellectuals like the Coomaraswamys. All were widely respected by the Buddhists in Sri Lanka and Ponnambalam Ramanathan was the one who pushed for “Wesak” or “Buddha Purnima” to be a public holiday in colonial Sri Lanka. 

As for Tamil Nadu, though the Church suffered a slight setback when M.G. Ramachandran left DMK and founded the AIADMK, deviating from “Atheism” to “Theism” (moving closer to Hindu religion), and his successor Jayalalithaa followed his footsteps (at least for a while), it seemed to have cleverly moved its coins to influence AIADMK too. Now we have a host of Dravidian parties changing alliances at the drop of a hat and even at each others’ throats, but remaining perennially close to the Church.

So, whichever party is in power, the Church is able to have its say and continue with its agenda of de-Hinduising the state. Similarly, in Sri Lanka, the Church has been able to influence the leadership of both LTTE and the Sri Lankan government, while causing the death of thousands of Hindus and Buddhists in the decades-long conflict. The Church has also been indulging in blatant conversion activities in both Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. 

Influencing Jayalalithaa for the greatest assault on Hinduism

At one point, the Church found it difficult in Tamil Nadu, due to the enormous influence of Melmaravathur Adiparasakthi Movement and Sabarimala Pilgrimage on Scheduled Caste Hindus, and the various activities undertaken by Kanchi Mutt to reach out to them, besides the enactment of the anti-conversion law by the Jayalalithaa regime.

But the Church finally succeeded in influencing Jayalalithaa after her party’s rout in the 2004 parliament elections, resulting in two telling actions. First, she repealed the anti-conversion law, enacted by her own government, to appease the Christian community; secondly, she went to the extent of denigrating and destroying the sanctity of a 2500-year-old institution established by Adi Sankara and flawlessly maintained by his order of disciples as ‘Jagath Gurus’ for millions of Hindus.

Not surprisingly, in October 2004, she received the ‘Golden Star for Dignity and Honour’ (Thanga Tharakai) award from a Ukraine-based Christian organisation named International Human Rights Defence Committee, controlled by America and funded by ‘US Agency for International Development’ (USAID).

The Indian representative for IHRDC was Mallavarappu Prakash, Bishop of Vijayawada and later Chairman of Tamil Nadu Minorities Welfare Commission! In February 2005, the ‘India International Society’, USA, proposed a tribute for her together with ‘Barath Jyothi’ award, after which evangelist K.A. Paul came to Tamil Nadu in a private jet to give thousands of crores of rupees for Tsunami relief.

Jaya pursuing Christian agenda

Since then, Jayalalithaa has clearly sided with the Christian clergy. Last year, while terming the spontaneous ‘retaliatory’ attacks on Christians in Kandhamal, Orissa, as a “disgrace” to the nation, she conveniently ignored the dastardly murder of Swami Laxmanananda and his disciples, and the distribution of blasphemous literature and pamphlets denigrating Hindu Gods and Goddesses, by his opponents. When the Rama Sethu Protection Movement was at its peak, she spoke against the Sethusamudram Project, not with true faith in Sri Rama, but with an eye on the votebank. And while protesting against the Sethu Project, she exhibited her ‘secular’ credentials by pointing out that ‘Adams Bridge’ (Ramar Sethu) was significant to Muslims and Christians as well, a myth which no Christian or Muslim scholar has so far endorsed!

Even the present election manifesto of her party makes only a passing mention of Rama Sethu! Yet it gives exclusive commitments for Christians, such as Reservation for Dalit Christians (unconstitutional), subsidy for Jerusalem pilgrimage, ‘All Souls Day’ to be made a holiday, hostels with all facilities at nominal charges in towns of minority religious significance, and addressing the ‘security’ concerns of minorities. 

But she gave no commitments regarding repeal of the DMK government’s ordinance on Tamil New Year or returning the Chidambaram Temple administration to the Dikshidars, or any issue concerning Hindus. As if to confirm allegiance to the Christian agenda, she deviated from her original stand on the Sri Lankan ethnic issue and sat on a day-long fast on 9 March 2009, condemning the Indian government’s alleged inaction on the issue and addressed the LTTE as “fighters” instead of her usual remark of “terrorists”. Now she has openly supported the Christian agenda of creation of a separate Tamil Eelam, which amounts to supporting the LTTE and nothing else. After all, the Church-backed LTTE leadership is also fighting for the same cause!

Sabotaging the legislation on conversion in Sri Lanka 

In 2003, Sri Lankan Buddhist and Hindu leaders joined hands to draft a legislation, at the request of Hindu Affairs Minister T. Maheswaran, to legally stop conversion activities by the Church. Despite the pressure applied by this joint committee which worked for six months to draft the new act for parliament, the Church-influenced Sri Lankan government has been reluctant to enact the law.

As the Church foresaw that Buddhist-Hindu unity – unity between majority (Buddhists) and the largest minority (Tamil Hindus) – could lead to permanent peace in the war-struck Island, it sabotaged the process of legislation by favouring the creation of an inter-religious council to hammer out a solution. This so-called inter-religious council is a typical Christian strategy (much like the Church-backed inter-faith dialogues in non-Christian countries) to thwart all attempts to ban conversions by an act of parliament; the same has been adopted by the Vatican to stop such legislations in India as well. Though organizations such as ‘All Ceylon Hindu Congress’ (though pro-LTTE), ‘Hindu Council of Sri Lanka’ and ‘National Council of Buddhist Clergy’ are dead against conversion activities, the Church has been able to influence the political leadership across the spectrum to sabotage the legislation of the anti-conversion law
(http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=20884 ).

In this context, it must be noted that the former Hindu Affairs Minister in Ranil Wickramasinge’s cabinet T. Maheswaran escaped an assassination attempt in 2004, but was finally assassinated on 1 January 2008 while worshipping in a Shiva Temple. Till date, the government has not completed investigations in to the murder, though it has been blamed for allegedly reducing his security level and for continuing minister Douglas Devananda, widely alleged to be involved in the assassination. The government put the blame squarely on LTTE and Douglas Devananda also denied the allegation of involvement. The BBC Sinhala.com reported, “The DNA samples taken from the murder suspect of a Tamil legislator matched with the blood samples taken from the gun used for the killing, Sri Lankan judiciary said. The legislator’s security guard managed to shoot the suspect, identified as Johnson Collin Wasanthan Valentine
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Maheswaran and
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2008/02/080201_maheswaran_dna.shtml ).

Importance of Hindu-Buddhist relationship

As early as June 1998, ‘Tamilnet’ reported that an International conference on Hinduism condemned attacks on Hindus and the destruction of Hindu places of worship by Sri Lankan security forces, and urged Colombo to halt such attacks. The report said that, the ‘First International Conference on Hindu Solidarity’ was held in Paris on 27-28 June at the UNESCO auditorium and attended by delegates from several countries, including functionaries from BJP and VHP (http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=1691).

Though this seems like a conflict between Buddhist and Hindu communities, it must be understood that the security forces are controlled by a political leadership owing allegiance to the Church. The centuries-old cultural relationship and largely peaceful existence of both the Sinhala Buddhists and Tamil Hindus can be ascertained from two facts.

First, their coming together to draft a legislation against conversion activities of the Church and missionaries, and second, the statement from the Hindu Council of Sri Lanka that the long-standing cordial relationship between the two religious communities in the Island Nation would go a long way in solving the present crisis and creating peace and harmony.

It is pertinent to note that Buddhists worship Hindu Gods and Goddesses and Hindus worship Buddha as an Avatar of Maha Vishnu, and both communities follow the same calendar and celebrate the same day as New Year. While condemning the politicisation of the ethnic conflict by self-serving politicians of Tamil Nadu, the Hindu Council felt that areas of common interests must be identified and along with religious commonality and cordiality, local capacities built for peace. It opined that furthering political interests and fanning Tamil chauvinism must be discouraged as it would complicate the situation and inhibit the capacity of the Indian government to help find a lasting solution by bringing both the Sri Lankan government and the Tamils to the negotiating table.

BJP-led NDA government’s proactive role in the peace process

Journalist M.R. Narayan Swamy (IANS) reported that the Vajpayee government played a secret but vital proactive role in the peace process between Sri Lanka and LTTE, brokered by Norway: “Overseen by New Delhi, a truce document began to be drafted. Norway was deeply involved in the exercise, roping in some of its veteran diplomats. Eventually, this translated into CFA. India also told Norwegian diplomats to let the LTTE know about the Indian involvement in the entire effort. On Feb 21, 2002, LTTE chief Velupillai Prabhakaran signed the CFA. Wickramasinghe put his signature a day later.”

By sheer coincidence, both Ranil Wickramasinghe and A.B. Vajpayee lost power almost at the same time (April-May 2004) and J.N. Dixit, appointed NSA by Sonia-led UPA regime, passed away within a few months of his appointment, with all the details about India’s role in bringing the CFA, which he learnt from Ranil Wickramasinghe, when the later visited India after demitting office. It is natural for a Hindu nationalist party to be deeply concerned about the well-being of a country who’s Buddhist and Hindu people are both tied to Hindu India by an umbilical cord; hence it is no surprise that it tried to bring peace in the interests of both countries. Why did the CFA fail and whether the Sonia-led government pursued the policy of the Vajpayee government with regard to Sri Lanka remain unknown?
(http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=24710 ).

The present scenario

At present, all Dravidian parties are wreaking havoc in the run-up to the general elections, using the inflammatory Eelam issue as an election talking point. Each party is trying to whip up emotions in Tamil Nadu to bring about a ceasefire in Lanka and thereby save Prabhakaran and the LTTE.

When the Father Jagat Gasper Raj-Kanimozhi combine floated the “Chennai Sangamam” cultural extravaganza in 2007, Jaya TV went to town with investigative reports on the LTTE connections of Gasper Raj; Jayalalithaa wasted no time condemning the government’s association with the project. But last year, both Jayalalithaa and her TV channel kept a conspicuous silence during the Chennai Sangamam festival.

During the last week alone, Father Gasper Raj has been promoted by mainstream electronic media as a representative of Sri Lankan Tamils! Participating in debates on electronic news channels, he blatantly supports LTTE in the guise of voicing human rights concerns, criticizes the Indian government, and in one debate on Times Now Channel had the audacity to call Dr. Subramanian Swamy a “paid agent of Rajapakse”! Yet it is unclear if he is a Sri Lankan refugee or an Indian citizen. His antecedents and present activities in India/Tamil Nadu need thorough investigation. 

AIADMK leader Jayalaithaa, who condemned Karunanidhi for saying Prabhakaran was not a terrorist, has not reacted to her ally PMK leader Ramadoss’ identical statement! Why does Jayalalithaa, who questioned Sonia’s silence on Karuna’s statement, remain silent on Ramadoss’ statement? 

And what has the Italian-Christian-led UPA done for Sri Lankan Tamil Hindus in the last five years? Why didn’t the Sonia-led regime follow the NDA policy with regard to the Sri Lankan Tamil issue? Why was her government silent when the Geneva round of talks failed despite the presence of a live CFA?

Sad irony, and civilisational opportunity

Actually, the West and the Church want to Christianise Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu and form a larger Tamil Christian State. Hence a Sinhala-Tamil divide has been created with the help of the Tamil-Christian leadership of the LTTE and the Sinhala-Christian leadership of Sri Lanka.

Caught in between are the Sinhala Buddhist and Tamil Hindu civil populace. To keep the issue alive without any solution, the Christian leadership of India and the Dravidian, irreligious leadership of Tamil Nadu have been used, just as this diabolic group is using Dravidian politicians and Christian NGOs who have been harvesting souls in both Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. It is a sad irony that the interests of hapless Tamil Hindus of Sri Lanka, who have been persecuted for long by both the Christian leadership of LTTE and the Christian leadership of Sri Lankan government, have been represented by the unholy Christian-Dravidian nexus in Tamil Nadu. 

As things stand in Sri Lanka, it looks as though the West might be able to save the LTTE leadership. It will try to send missionaries and NGOs to help the rehabilitation process, so it can clandestinely achieve its evangelical agenda also.

It is said that President Rajapakse instructed setting up of a chapel in the ‘welfare villages’ to look into the spiritual needs of the internally displaced persons and refugees, who number up to 200,000. Sensing the danger of evangelization, the Hindu Council, the Hindu Women’s Society (Saiva Mangaiyar Kazhagam), the Sai Samithi, along with other organizations, swung into action to provide medicines, clothes, soaps, detergents and sanitary napkins and other articles of basic necessity, to augment the shelter, food and water provided by the government. The Hindu Council has also organized singing of Tamil devotional hymns (Thevaram and Thiruvasagam); the Sai Samithi has organized bhajans. These organizations are likely to take care of orphaned children by sending them to orphanages run by the Sri Ramakrishna Mission.

The present situation must be seen as an opportunity to revive Hindu-Buddhist unity and Hindu religious heads from India, especially from Tamil Nadu, would do well to establish contact and communication channels with Buddhist leaders of Sri Lanka. This will go a long way in bringing peace and harmony to the Island Nation. For this to happen, we need a strong “Hindu” political leadership in India. Let us hope it gets ‘elected’ now.

The author is a senior journalist; he lives in Chennai



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26 responses to “Tamil Eelam: Church’s Brainchild?

  1. Bharat Nair

    Even during recent “sabarimala” episode, Kerala Devaswom Minister during his press meetings , hinted that this controversy was a result of “conspiracies” being hatched in some seminaries in South India. (Here the word “seminary” clearly referred to Xtian involvement). Sadly no journalist picked up this clue. Even VHP could’nt do nothing.( I guess they had some sort of opposition to the Thantry family)

  2. Hindu

    This is particularly sad and ironic also since Satguruji obtained his spiritual Diksha among the Tamils of Sri Lanka. Those Tamils, the beacons of Saivite Sanatana Dharma, are being subverted in this cruel fashion.

    Aum Namah Shivayah,

  3. Dispin John

    Hey, who is this nutty Haran? Does this fellow know anything about the historical context of the struggles faced by the Tamil people in Sri Lanka? This piece of nonsense clearly outlines the ignorance of the author. Why on earth publish such biased and unethical document? Hey Haran, want to have a decent and intelligible discussion? Contact me.
    Think before you spew venom on such sensitive issues.

    • zoomindianmedia


      church has an evil legacy. In Europe, In Americas, in Asia, in Africa, in India, in Australia.

      Haran has to be taken seriously.

  4. VoP

    > who is this nutty Haran?

    One of the many who knows that Church continues to use “Divide and Rule”, “Divide and Convert” policies. Put forth your arguments here. Tell us how it is “biased and unethical document?”

  5. Hindu

    The growth of Evangelical Christianity in Korea, after almost 200 years of failed attempts, and its subversion of both Buddhism and Confucianism, is something Hindus must be wary of.


    I think Buddhism will die out in South Korea in another 100 years.

    Hari Om,

    • No doubt about that. All the koreans I have met here (around 10) are all church going Christians and they all look down upon buddhism. They have all the political power in their country and are using the state mechanism to make life difficult for the non-Christians.

      • Hindu

        It always surprised me how strongly evangelical Korean Christians were.

        I am sure I won’t live to see the day that Indians resemble anything like that, since I am already in the evening of this life. But I hope the day never comes when one see Hindus from India aggressively selling a religion other than their own Dharma. Not because Christianity is “bad.” But for the same reason that I don’t want all the languages in the world to die out and everyone speak English. Hindu Dharma is the oldest spiritual heritage in the world (in my opinion, also the most peerless in other ways), and it should always live on, to enrich the Human experience and to provide true seekers with a glimpse into the infinite. Christianity is a great religion, but in my opinion it is not enough for a true seeker in the form it is taught. The Church has taken the teachings of Jesus and made it into an easy, feel good religion with its promise of instant “forgiveness” and “salvation” designed to win quick converts. Ironically, what first drew me to Hindu Dharma was someone telling me there was no “instant forgiveness” in Hindu dharma. I always felt very suspicious when someone offered “salvation and forgiveness if only you believed in Christ.” That seemed like the oldest trick in the book, and it is. Most of the soldiers in the Crusades went because the Church offered them such an instant reward. Today you see Jihadis blow themselves up for similar promised rewards. That is not religion – that is inducement to murder.

        Hari Om,

        • Bang on, Gary.

          One Korean woman I met wanted me to come to the local International Church. She had converted recently to Christianity, she said. When I asked her why she did so, she said it was because it is easier since you go to heaven if you accept Jesus. In Buddhism she said, you had to work for it.
          Then there are two chinese neo-converts I met who actually believed that evolution did not happen and that non-believer go to hell!!

          I don’t know if Christianity should be called a religion or a cult because exclusivity and illogical beliefs are very typical of cults.

        • sanjaychoudhry

          Christianity is the spiritual version of instant noodles. Just accept Jesus and your salvation is served to you in under two minutes. No waiting! No sweat! Quick-n-easy!

          It is great to have a “religion” in which you don’t have to work for your own salvation. Just give ten percent of your income every month to the church and they will book a seat for you in heaven. (This actually used to happen in the middle ages when you could pay the church money to book an “assured” seat in heaven!)

          The whole concept is a bloody joke. You have to work hard for a living and earn your bread, but you don’t have to lift a finger to go to heaven as long as you keep writing cheques to the bishops. People who convert to this cult lured by these infantile claims have their heads up their arse.

  6. S

    The cult of Christianity, when it was in its infancy, started absorbing Pagan festivals of Europe, in order to make itself more palatable to the people of Europe. Christmas is originally the Pagan festival of Winter Solstice, Easter is the Pagan festival of Spring, celebrated in honour of Goddess Eostre. Once this cult had a substantial following, it wrecked havoc in Europe. Pagans were murdered and their temples either taken over or converted into churches. Here is a history of the cult of Christianity and the genocides it has carried out across all 5 continents.


    Most of the Christians themselves are unaware of the bloody history of the church, and especially Catholicism, the original Christianity.

  7. Shantaram

    What garbage.

    Have you ever lived in Sri Lanka???

    The dominant religion among LTTE is hinduism, only a small percentage are christians. Most of the christians are in fact afraid to stand up top the nazi Singhala government.

    The churches are not divided along linguistic lines, people are, especially after the buddhist nationalists took power.

    So, to inform you from our side, we (tamil hindus) are attacked 90 percent from the buddhist side and not the christian, I understand you have an agenda to spread lies, but grow up.

    We, tamil hindus, would rather live in a christian country than a buddhist one, a simply fact, either accept it or move on.

    • Swadeep

      Please read the article again. It says the people are suffering at the hands of the Christian leadership of the LTTE and the Sinhala govt. Nowhere does he say that majority of the LTTE are christians.

    • zoomindianmedia

      It is ethnic tension being exacerbated the dirty role of the church.

      Check the video above to get an understanding on the nature of church in Indian subcontinent.

  8. sanjaychoudhry

    Shantaram, Hindus have always lacked strategic insight, which makes them a willing vicitm of psyops and hush-hush operations run by Westerners. Hindus like you are merely useful idiots for the church and its sponsors sitting in the West, especially US and Norway.

    Any idea why LTTE leadership abruptly decided to bury its dead cadres instead of cremation, or why Rajiv Gandhi was bumped off by a Christian suicide bomber?

    You are a child in these games.

  9. Hewage

    I fully agree with this author. If the LTTE had another 5 years, both Buddhists and Hindus would have become minorities while Christians would be ruling the island. The LTTE terrorists killed so many Buddhist and Hindu religious leaders and destroyed Buddhist and Hindu religious place, but not a single Christian clergy or a church. Around the world major propaganda campaigns for the LTTE are carried out by Christian clergymen and evangelical organizations. The simple truth is that Church and the west have an eye on India, Sri Lanka is only the steppingstone. The LTTE terrorists are functioning as a cats paw of this western grand design for south asia. The west is agitated about the emerging Asian powers such as India and China.

  10. anonymous1

    Just reflect on this statement, it answers all comments.

    “First we had the land , and they the bible, now we have the bible and they the land”

    Archibishop Desmond Tutu, Nobel Peace Prize winner.

  11. S

    sanjaychoudhry said,
    Shantaram, Hindus have always lacked strategic insight, which makes them a willing vicitm of psyops and hush-hush operations run by Westerners.

    I respectfully object to this statement. Westerners all cannot be tarred with the same brush. It is only the evangelicals (also known as fundies) who want to rule the world. The West itself has been a victim of the cult of Christianity, and the Pagan Europeans among its first victims.

    • Incognito

      Christianity and Islam were developed by Romans and Arabs to subjugate people rather than as a spiritual way of life.

      Europeans consider Romans as their civilisational predecessors forgetting that Romans destroyed the original pagan civilisations of Europe.

      Similarly converted Arabs, Persians, Pakistanis and other muslims have forgotten that their ancestors were attacked and killed by the marauding muslims who forced conversions upon them.

      These converted people who have been deprived of their civilisational and spiritual roots feel an inherent insecurity.

      They pursue mainly two different methods to overcome this sense of insecurity.

      1. Some of them indulge in heavy materialism.
      They seek safety in so-called scientific temper, secularism and living in the present.

      2. Some others hope to find security by having everyone else conform to their converted faith. They seek safety in numbers. These people indulge in conversion activities.

      3. A miniscule minority think beyond the restrictions imposed upon them by the subjugated psyche of their societies. They discover eternal truths in various spiritual texts of the ancient civilisations, particularly of India.

      What the British colonials brought to India was the insecure mind of a subjugated people that they imparted to some Indians to whom they handed over the administration of the country when they were forced to leave India.

      • zoomindianmedia

        Romans were pagans and they resisted church for a long time. Even in constantine’s time church was fully established. Visionary and cerbral Roman emperors like Marcus Aurelius, Julian et. al. detested church.

        Church finally succeed on account of political control of governance using which it ensured closure of alternate belief systems.

        A sample of church’s ugly behavior is presented below during the times of roman empire from Gibbon.

        “Marcellus in syria resolved to destroy the holy and remarkable temple of Zeus (Jupiter). christian engineers could not break down the robust foundation of the temple. He was killed while doing his dirty work and the church synod, immediately declared him a saint who sacrificed his life in the cause of God”.

        Catholic church has an evil legacy that will make hitler’s reich look kiddish

  12. S

    Incognito said
    May 3, 2009 at 9:19 am

    “Christianity and Islam were developed by Romans and Arabs to subjugate people rather than as a spiritual way of life.”

    Europeans consider Romans as their civilisational predecessors forgetting that Romans destroyed the original pagan civilisations of Europe.

    Romans did not develop Christianity. If you read the early history of the church, it hated the Pagan Rome and Greece. The major temples of Romans stood where St. Peters is right now. Early Christian cultists, in order to attract the Pagans into their cult adopted several of their customs into mainstream Christianity. Christmas is originally the Pagan festival of Winter Solstice ; according to the Bible Jesus was born sometime in March. Another stolen festival is Easter (celebrated in honour of Goddess Eostre) which the church has dumped this year. Please note that the Catholic church has used “Pascha” this year instead of Easter. The christmas tree and yule logs are stolen Pagan symbols along with the Easter bunny and eggs. The cult of Christianity did not have a substantial following in Rome until the 4th century, after which it wrecked havoc in Europe.

    “Things They Don’t Tell You
    about Christianity”


    • Incognito

      There are contradictory views on origin of christianity such this: –

      My conclusion is that Jesus may have been a real person, a spiritual seeker who spread a pacifist belief system.

      The Romans appropriated this belief system and converted it for their political purposes.

      The structure of church with Pope, Arch Bishops and so on resemble a political heirarchy more than the simple way of life that Jesus tried to spread.

      • Hindu

        I had done some reading into this issue. There are some strong reasons to believe that a historical Jesus never existed, and if he did, then he was essentially what you say – a pacifist teacher who never claimed anything more.

        The discovery of gnostic gospels such as Thomas also seems to corraborate this. Indeed, the Jesus of Thomas seems to be almost like an Advaitic mystic than the “son of God who offers salvation” which the Church found so convenient to market. No wonder then, that the council of Nycea did not include such gospels in its canon.

        It seems today very unlikely that the Jesus in the form the Church has marketed ever was. In the US, this possibility is seen as a major threat to Evangelical Churches and they pour literally billions into ensuring that their narrative reaches the people, but slowly their influence is waning.

        Hari Om,

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